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PostSubject: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:20 am



I admit I thought this was a worse idea than X-Men: First Class.

I also fully admit that the trailer is freaking awesome. Not sold on the kid they got to play Peter Parker, but I'll give him a shot. This one could be seriously fun.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:12 pm

Wait a minute ... isn't that pretty much the same story we saw in the recent (a few years ago or so) Spiderman movie? Are they actually rehashing what they have already done?

Not too sure about that idea:(

It's Spiderman though, so I'll definitely watch it Very Happy And the trailer does look good Smile
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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:38 pm

Yeah, that's why I said I originally thought it was a bad idea. But from the looks of the trailer, there are some different ideas being tossed into the mix. I'm kinda excited to see how it all goes.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:43 pm

Well they've also made two Hulk movies, and two Punisher movies, so rehashing the same Spiderman story isn't too odd Razz

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:08 pm

The difference is they told two different stories with both those franchises, one being an origin and the other not for each franchise. In this case we've got two origins. Not even Superman or Batman have had two origin stories on the silver screen (no, Burton's 89 Batman wasn't really an origin tale, though it did flashback to the Bruce's parents' murders).

There's rumor that the upcoming Man of Steel will be an origin tale. I'm really psyched about that one. It's produced by Nolan and written by Goyer and promises to be a much more kick-ass Superman than we've ever seen before.

Really, as far as theatrical Superhero movies, Spider-Man will be the first really successful property that has actually had his origin tale retold. Which thinking about it now is kind've a stunner given how many remakes we've seen over the past couple of decades.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:56 pm

It's one thing to remake a movie a couple decade later ... but this is remaking something less than 10 years old ...

I hope it works for them as I really like Spiderman.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:42 pm

Apparently they couldn't come up with their own stuff and had to ripoff Mirrors edge. Personally i think the trailer looks like crap. And that was even before i saw this- http://youtu.be/653OdfJXOWA

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:51 pm

Wow... LMAO

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:26 pm

i got really attached to the toby maguire spiderman. yes the 3rd movie was pathetic but i think they could've kept things rolling by moving on. I still don't understand why they felt they had to start over.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:37 pm

Spider-Man 3 had potential, but it was paced horribly. It could have been split into three different movies in its own right.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:45 pm

that is true. they had three different villains stuffed into a what, a 97 minute window? yea not a bright idea guys, especially when you try to make it seem venom is a team player!!!
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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:45 pm

Raimi had completely different plans. The studio insisted on adding more and more and more.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:52 pm

I didn't know the studio had calls of what can happen in a movie production? that changes my views completely....hm...
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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:08 pm

Oh, when the production company has intentions, your directors are forced to listen. Just look at what happened to LotS.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:10 pm

lets not go to LOTS it hurts to remember the pain of what happened. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:44 pm

The problem is, people are interested in these superheroes as humans. That's really easy to do if you do the origin stories (they all...well, ALMOST all....start off as mere mortals). It's also easy to do if you make them whiney little....Anyway, it's hard to do after you establish them as bad-asses. You can either up the drama (Dark Knight), or you can weaken the hero (Spiderman II), or you can focus on WHY the heroes do as they do (Firefly, Dark Knight, and maybe a few others). So if you want to make a Spiderman movie, you can either take away Spidy's powers (again), or up the drama (again, which considering what they did last time would mean actually destroying the planet), or just start over. Let's face it, those writers aren't good enough to actually make Spidy realistic.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:36 am

They are so busy wanting to shove different comic storylines into the movies that they become disjointed and uninteresting most of the time. A little message to them: they don't HAVE to remain so faithful to the storylines so long as they remain faithful to the CHARACTERS. I mean, they do shoddy job as it is trying to follow the plots (or at least half-ass the plots). Fans would be forgiving if they're given the characters they know and love... plus it'd be a helluvalot easier to write a damned movie.

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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:14 pm

with the talent we have around here we all could be our own team of writers Razz just a thought *heh heh*
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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:24 pm

Is it even a good idea to be faithful to the story? I mean, that necessitates translating someone else's work into a new medium. It'd be much more effective to write a unique story about the character. And the fans will be much more forgiving--after all, that's what every new comic book essentially is anyway. Maybe it's cannon maybe not; either way, once you start writing new adventures for the superheroes you can escape the whole "true to the story" trap entirely, and focus on the characters.

As an aside, Deadpool would be FANTASTIC for this. Mostly because as long as the character was a snarky, loud-mouthed bad-ass with a few touches of humanity thrown in here and there you've more or less got his character. His first comic book started with him doing the naration--then mocking a mook for not understanding why he was talking to himself. He was once almost crushed to death by a giant teddy bear for talking too much! Marvel invented him as a way to deal with superfluous badguys too bizar and goofy for a real superhero to take out. He's MADE for cheesy hillarious popcorn flicks.
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PostSubject: Re: I'm not jumping the gun on this one...   Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:06 pm

I'm holding out on getting behind this movie as well.
A lot of the points above I find I share. (ie. Hulk, the first SM movies)

Ah well, I'm looking for reviews from those that do give it a try first.
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