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Calwyn Sidekick
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| Subject: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:34 am | |
| This is the third book in a five-book series, following The Warded Man and Desert Spear. The first book was an incredible debut, and the second was also very good and intruging (though it suffered from a slower pace, with more worldbuilding and politics). The third book, to me, was something of a mixture of the three.
On the one hand, like Desert Spear, it featured the backstory of a character that had hitherto been somewhat minor and disliked. The backstory, like in the previous book, established the motivations and some empathy with a character that you were made to dislike if not despise beforehand. I have to say it's interesting, but now its starting to approach authors like Jordan and Martin in terms of how many character POVs Brett is willing to use within his series. The good news is that he really only follows two, and only for brief moments three, story arcs. All of the POVs will be contained within them, which allows for greater perspective and mitigates the slower pace that it causes. And the pace is slow, there is no doubt about that. The entire book (minus the backstory parts) takes place over around 35 days, and until close to the end there isn't much action to speak of. Just more politics, more worldbuilding, and more waiting.
The only other issue I had with this book, and this is something that has been prevalent throughout the whole series, is that everyone has or wants to have sex with everyone else, and everyone is jealous or angry at everyone else for that very reason. I get the point that Brett's trying to make about it all in relation to the world he's building, but it was already annoying by the end of the first book let alone the third.
The good news is that these are little nit-picky things and they're the worst I can say about the book. The worldbuilding, specifically the development of how magic works, is mostly interesting. The politics is probably split 50/50 in being interesting. The character development, for most characters, is interesting enough at the least.
Now for the great news: all of that slower development is at least captivating enough to get you to the climax of the novel, and in fact there are two of them. The first is a large and fairly epic battle, the second is a more significant confrontation between two of the main characters that was long promised. The battle ended somewhat unresolved, giving us a taste and a promise of what even grander, more epic battles are to come. The confrontation ended in a cliffhanger that would give even George R.R. Martin a heart attack. I sure as hell didn't see it coming, and I'm still not even sure what "it" will end up being - it's THAT big of a cliffhanger!
The upshot of all the slower development and the lack of resolution to the climaxes of this book, is that now things seem properly set up for much more excitement in the final two novels. There are two separate wars that need to be resolved, and I am already drooling over how Brett will handle it all. He's proven to be unpredictable, and in my opinion one of the top author in fantasy right now along with Brandon Sanderson and Patrick Rothfuss.
I know some of you have read and enjoyed both of those authors, and if you haven't yet started the Warded Man you owe it to yourself to do so now. | |
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| Subject: Re: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:21 am | |
| - Calwyn wrote:
- The confrontation ended in a cliffhanger that would give even George R.R. Martin a heart attack. I sure as hell didn't see it coming, and I'm still not even sure what "it" will end up being - it's THAT big of a cliffhanger!
Truth. Though, he did say he needed to do what no-one expected. | |
| | | Calwyn Sidekick
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| Subject: Re: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:24 am | |
| I think what he did, exactly, has yet to be seen. Otherwise it would have ended differently, or at least with a different/further description. | |
| | | Deano Secondary Character
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| Subject: Re: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:34 am | |
| True enough. It's my assumption that it's gonna be a whole lot less permanent than he hoped for though. | |
| | | Calwyn Sidekick
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| Subject: Re: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:57 am | |
| Wait, I'm getting confused by our own attempts at not posting spoilers. And I just remembered there are spoiler tags for that reason! - Spoiler:
Do you mean Jardir's "death" at the end will be less permanent than Arlen hoped for, or the author Brett himself?
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| | | Deano Secondary Character
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| Subject: Re: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:02 pm | |
| - Calwyn wrote:
- Wait, I'm getting confused by our own attempts at not posting spoilers. And I just remembered there are spoiler tags for that reason!
Oh....right. - Calwyn wrote:
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Do you mean Jardir's "death" at the end will be less permanent than Arlen hoped for, or the author Brett himself?
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Than what Arlen hoped for. Have to believe the ol' crown Jardir was wearing kept him alive, after that mention of his jaw being healed right away during their duel.
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| Subject: Re: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:51 pm | |
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See, I was never really under the impression that killing Jardir is what he really intended. My first thought, when he said he has to do what they wouldn't expect, was that he would make up with him and form some kind of alliance. Which is why what wound up (maybe) happening was so shocking to me as a cliffhanger. But now I think the whole leaping them off the cliff thing is a way to get the two of them alone, with no one else around to interfere as they talk and plan.
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| | | Deano Secondary Character
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| Subject: Re: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:52 am | |
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I had a similar notion when Arlen first mentioned sending a message, but didn't think Jardir would ever go for a peaceful talk. If he can't physically avoid one, however....much better plan than getting offed permanently. Good call.
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| Subject: Re: The Daylight War by Peter V Brett (Spoiler free) Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:20 am | |
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It's so damned stupid too. Both of them are very committed to doing what's best for humanity, both of them are honorable men, both of them have shown an ability to forgive people and make personal sacrifices to fight the demons.
And yet...
Jardir is the only one guilty of betrayal. He didn't give a shit about Arlen "stealing" from his people until his wife shoved that idea into his skull, and even then he's always felt guilty about it even if he thought it was for the greater good. So why is he still pissed off at Arlen? For claiming to be another Deliverer? If they talked for 5 damned seconds, Arlen would say he's never made such a claim - the polar opposite in fact. Jardir's motivation seems to be entirely that he needs to personally fight and kill/defeat Arlen to prove to himself and his conscience that he is the Deliverer and he acted rightly (according to his own morals).
Arlen has two legitimate beefs: first, that Jardir stabbed him in the back; and second, that Jardir and his people are conquering humanity rather than working with them in the Demonwar. Linked with that is their treatment of women, and non-warrior castes, which Arlen has always disliked. But, Jardir has started changing that.
They're both moved towards the middle in their dispute, and neither of them even realize it yet. They haven't given themselves the chance to realize it.
If I were to guess, I would say that much of the next book will involve Jardir and Arlen being alone together, for whatever reason, fighting the demons together and eventually putting aside their differences (eventually). If there are only two books left, I have to assume that their conflict has to be resolved before the last book, which will probably be taken up entirely by the final battle against the demons.
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